Types of Equality
- As I understand it, equality means giving people opportunities based on their natural skills, abilities and efforts. If their natural skills and abilities are bad, they should get minimum wage or other help anyway.
- Equitity means you can do anything, independent of if you actually cannot do it. So, it’s basically insanity.
- Egalitarianism means to give people opportunities based on their natural skills, abilities and efforts, but unlike equality, it does not matter what you do, or if you do anything at all, you always get the same reward.
- Our current capitalist system says, you get rewarded the more you deceive and abuse others, and abused the more you are skilled and work diligent.
In my opinion equality is the only one that makes sense….
I named the 4 basic possibilities. I’m not entirely sure about the terms for them.
“As I understand it, A means to give people opportunities based on their natural skills, abilities and efforts.
If their natural skills and abilities are bad, they should get minimum wage or other help anyway.
B means you can do anything, independent of if you actually cannot do it.
So, it’s basically insanity.
C means to give people opportunities based on their natural skills, abilities and efforts, but unlike equality, it does not matter what you do, or if you do anything at all, you always get the same reward.
Our current capitalist system D says, you get rewarded the more you deceive and abuse others, and abused the more you are skilled and work diligent.”
So, what is A, B, C, D in your opinion(terms, opinion about them…)?
ChatGPT
Your categorization touches on different ways people think about fairness and distribution of resources in society. Let’s break them down and refine the terms:
A: What you call “Equality”
Proposed term: Meritocratic Equality (or simply Meritocracy with a social safety net)
- This is the idea that people should have opportunities based on their skills, abilities, and efforts.
- You also mention that people with fewer abilities should still receive help (e.g., minimum wage or support).
- This blends meritocracy (rewarding skill and effort) with a basic social safety net (support for those who struggle).
Opinion:
This is a fair and practical system if implemented properly. However, real-life challenges (such as unequal starting conditions, bias, and systemic barriers) make pure meritocracy hard to achieve.
B: What you call “Equity” (but define as insanity)
Proposed term: Equity (as an extreme interpretation)
- The general idea of equity is adjusting opportunities to account for disadvantages, so that outcomes become more equal.
- However, your description suggests an extreme version—where people are given roles or rewards regardless of ability.
- That extreme form could be called “forced egalitarianism” or “delusional equity” (if it’s completely ignoring competence).
Opinion:
The moderate idea of equity (helping disadvantaged people to reach a fairer starting position) has value.
The extreme version (giving people jobs or rewards they can’t handle) is, as you put it, unrealistic.
C: What you call “Egalitarianism”
Proposed term: Pure Egalitarianism (or Absolute Egalitarianism)
- This means everyone gets the same reward, no matter their effort or ability.
- It ignores individual contribution and instead ensures equal results for all.
Opinion:
This kind of system might sound fair on the surface, but in practice, it often removes motivation for effort. If everyone gets the same, regardless of work, people may stop striving for improvement.
D: What you describe as “Capitalism”
Proposed term: Crony Capitalism or Exploitative Capitalism
- You describe a system where success is based on deception and abuse, rather than skill and effort.
- This is not what capitalism is supposed to be, but it’s often how it functions in reality (due to corruption, exploitation, etc.).
Opinion:
Capitalism can work well if it rewards true innovation, skill, and effort. However, unchecked capitalism often leads to exploitation, where people who manipulate the system gain the most.
Conclusion
- A (“Meritocratic Equality”) is your preferred choice.
- B (Extreme Equity) is unrealistic if it ignores real abilities.
- C (Pure Egalitarianism) sounds fair but removes incentives.
- D (Exploitative Capitalism) rewards manipulation over skill.
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